DreamTeamMoney.com latest Sports Arbitrage Trading discussion Discussion about latest news on Sports Arbitrage Trading in DreamTeamMoney.com http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php Thu, 20 Nov 2008 21:27:57 -0500 60 Why Do Bookies Restrict Arbers? http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=63603
What's this I keep reading about bookies restricting you to virtually useless limits simply because you're Arbing? I mean, at the end of the day they're running a book on an event and they WANT this money to make their book up. What they pay out in winning bets they make up in losing bets because as we all know they sell the event for less than 100%.

What's the beef if you lose with them and win money from their competitors? What do they care? I can understand them limiting you if you are too much money up with them, that's an entirely different matter but surely with the nature of arbing we win and lose in almost equal measure minus our small % profit and as such we're never more than a few quid up with a bookie at any one time.

What's their gripe? More importantly, those of you who have been arbing for some time, just how much of a hindrance is it to you and what, if anything, can you do to mitigate this? Surely if we all get limited then we'll all go bust?

Cheers]]> Fri, 14 Nov 2008 18:04:38 -0500 63603 Newbie Thread http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=63729
I am completely new to arbs - I have never been into betting but for few weeks (for some reason) I started thinking about it and I thought there must be a way to be profitable without actually gambling, but still didn't know about arbitrage... I tried a lot of formulas combinations - nothing worked (as you would suppose) and I decided to quit when I accidentally bumped here and found about arbs - I was very pleased to find out that there was a way after all... I have been reading most of the threads in this section but I still have the silly questions and I would like to reserve this thread for them...

I was looking at some free arb finding websites, that presented arbs with small profits (0.3-0.8%) but when I clicked the button "display comissions" all profits turn red ... especially bet fair, so my silly question number one is 1. Do all bookmakers have comissions for placing bets ?

2. From what I have read up to now I understand that pinnacle is bookmaker number one and it rocks, there was a similar thread about favourite bookmakers that tolerate arbing but I would very much appreciate if anyone tells me a service (free or paid) that finds arbs for us with these bookies.

This is a good one I found in another thread http://www.arbets.com - most of the bets involve pinnacle and another bookie which I am not sure enough if it tolerates arbing


Maybe someone could recommand me a service I could subscribe for good arbs with good bookmakers - that would be awesome!

That's for now - I hope we can form a good discussion from my junky thread diespam.gif but I really want to learn, If I have more questions I will post in this thread, also I invite all newbies to ask their questions in my thread so we don't flood the board smile.gif

Thank you all! Have a good day!]]> Mon, 17 Nov 2008 04:34:50 -0500 63729 William Hill http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=43504
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7243656.stm

I can't even bet £0.80 with them!!!!
Perhaps he should have admitted to them he was arbing!!!!!]]> Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:18:48 -0500 43504 Players Experiments http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=62291
I(d like to know your opinions about arbs ?
What website do you use ?
WHat and how much bookies you signed up with ?
WHat are your earnings daily about ?

I'm newbie and I'd like to know more about ar'bitrage.
Thanks a lot.]]> Sat, 25 Oct 2008 03:18:32 -0400 62291 The Bald One http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=62257
Bet £10 on your mobile saturday, and get a free £10 bet on sunday.

No mobile........no problem

Use wap.betfredmobile.com/mainmenu.asp to access the website from your computer.

Nice and easy
]]> Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:33:16 -0400 62257 Pinnacle http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=35283 Hi me fellow arbers smile.gif

The most amazing thing I have ever heard from a bookie. Pinnacle informed me that they have upgraded my account and it now shows much greater limits biggrin.gif. Can you believe that?? Where 99.999..% of books limit arbers Pinnacle increases their limit; Amazing biggrin.gif.

Pinnacle remains the King and Queen of every book in the world smile.gif. ]]> Sat, 27 Oct 2007 18:54:30 -0400 35283 Sending Documents http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=62125
When a bookie requests you send ID etc before they will allow you to withdraw funds,
and are doing it by email - is there a safe way to do this??

Just in case it gets hijacked by some, lets just say, not very nice people!!!!!

How do you do it???

Ta]]> Wed, 22 Oct 2008 13:54:30 -0400 62125 Great Arbitrage Site http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=58645
Num. Sport Match Bookmakers Profit Time (GMT) Duration
1. Tennis Tomas Berdych vs Xinyuan Yu Pinnacle (23.500) | Bet365 (15.000) 815.58% 9-Aug-08 5:24 pm 37 mins
2. Tennis Katarina Srebotnik vs Svetlana Kuznetsova bwin (4.820) | Pinnacle (4.750) 139.24% 28-Aug-08 4:01 pm 7 mins
3. Baseball Milwaukee Brewers vs Pittsburgh Pirates Victor Chandler (3.000) | Ladbrokes (3.400) 59.37% 31-Aug-08 10:57 am 26 mins
4. Tennis Igor Andreev vs Victor Hanescu Sky Bet (2.750) | Bodog (3.000) 43.48% 20-Aug-08 11:47 am 6 mins
5. Basketball Atlanta Dream vs Connecticut Sun BetCRIS (4.100) | Pinnacle (2.200) 43.17% 30-Aug-08 12:29 am 266 mins
6. Baseball Colorado Rockies vs San Francisco Giants Pinnacle (2.800) | BetCRIS (2.600) 34.81% 1-Sep-08 8:20 pm 41 mins
7. Basketball Atlanta Dream vs Indiana Fever BetCRIS (8.000) | Pinnacle (1.600) 33.33% 31-Aug-08 12:03 am 11 mins

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Edited: no referral links in this section]]> Mon, 01 Sep 2008 19:22:14 -0400 58645 Forbes International Trading....legitimate Or Scam ? http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=44256
Has anyone had experience with Forbes International Traders. They have an upfront fee of $7,900 and guarantee returns of 3% per month for the first 12 months or money back. Just reading about Peninsula in a previous post, which looked very familiar to this. They have a picture of Roger Federer on the inside cover (picture only, no testimonial) Brochure looks impressive. I have performed a name check with the asic site, and appears to be in order. Director apparently Phillip Smith. Looking forward to hearing your experiences.]]> Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:31:33 -0500 44256 Gamebookers http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=61135 Is anybody else having trouble with Gamebooker's new website?? Their new website does not process any of my bets and sometimes it shuts my SportsPunter browser. It also interferes with other websites such as Pinnacle's i.e. it logs me out.

I called them and they said they are experiencing problems but they don't know why by bets are not processed. I withdrew my funds and I don't want to redeposit until I know the problem is fixed so if anybody else is having problems or has a solution please let me know.

It is a great shame, for they do few arbs and quite often they take relatively large amounts.

I only wish people would leave things alone for a change; something does not break do not fix it, it's that simple mad.gif.

Sigh...Ahh...]]> Wed, 08 Oct 2008 05:36:04 -0400 61135 Lasseters Sports http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=50321 I received the following message from Lasseters Sports:

Dear Zacharias.

Thanks for taking the time to contact Lasseters Sports on Friday.

I would like to apologise on behalf of the Sportsbook Team for the delays that evening. The Manager of the Sportsbook has explained that they were having Technical issue with the Ticker which would have caused your bets to sit waiting for approval much longer than normal.

The IT Department are currently addressing the issue to ensure this won't occur again but in the meantime I have placed a complimentary £30 GBP in your account.

I hope this goes some way to make up for any inconvenience caused to you.

Please do not hesitate to contact us if you have any further issues or questions.

Best of Luck!

Kind Regards
Leesa Collins
Customer Care Manager
Lasseters Online

Is there a need to say anything else to show what a great book Lasseters is?? smile.gif
]]> Mon, 28 Apr 2008 06:14:46 -0400 50321 Betdaq http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=59412
Betdaq have now offered a good deal - 2% comms till the end of the year.

Just send your username / account no to the following;

notaxes@betdaq.com

I did, and got a reply in an hour, giving me 2% - try it

Smithie]]> Thu, 11 Sep 2008 13:55:30 -0400 59412 Oddsandbets http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=1863
OddsAndBets]]> Fri, 21 Apr 2006 07:38:24 -0400 1863 Couples – Buying Homes On An Average Wage (sports Arbitrage In The News) http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=60443 Couples – Buying Homes on an Average Wage (Sports Arbitrage In The News)
From : www.sportsarbitragenews.blogspot.com/2008/09/couples-buying-homes-on-average-wage.html

The actual amount, in numbers, may look bigger than it was ten years ago, but between inflation and the recession which most financial experts argue that we are heading into, the average household income in the UK is much smaller than it used to be.

A British couple taking home an average household income just can’t comfortably afford a home these days. The power of the currency just isn’t as strong as it used to be against the rising housing costs, inflation, and so on.

In fact, the average couple is expected to put aside two thirds of their income (with the average annual income being around £44,000) if they want to be able to afford a home.

But it could be worse. Couples taking home a combined annual income of £27,500 would have to spend more than a year’s salary on the deposit, solicitor’s fees, and stamp duty alone.

While some analysts argue that the ever-rising housing costs are set for a plummet before long, others argue that the horizon is not going to improve much for these average-income, first time home buyers any time soon. In fact, throughout the latter half of 2008, the road to home ownership is expected to only get bumpier for these couples.

What it really boils down to, in numbers, is this: The lowest quarter earnings in the UK have increased at a snail’s crawl of three point five percent each year since 1996. Meanwhile, housing prices throughout the UK have skyrocketed at a whopping ten point three percent.

There have been some slight improvements for a lucky few. Currently, a couple in the bottom earning quarter are expected to spend 34.5 percent of their pay just on mortgage repayments. This is still a lot, but it is down from the 37.2 percent that it was during early part of the year, and well down from the record breaking 46.5 percent UK citizens suffered at the end of 1989. For those that can afford home ownership, the market has become marginally less bumpy in the most recent months, and if the plummet that some experts predict takes place, housing could be under-valued for a period of time before slowly climbing back up.

Still, even with these slight improvement s, London is considered to be the very most difficult place, in the UK, for people who are making low or average earnings to start investing in home ownership. Many couples in fact are shown to need to save one hundred and thirty three percent of their annual pay.

On the flipside of that coin, the North East is shown to be the most accessible region. In fact, a low-earning couple can afford a home in the North East region by saving around 72.9 percent of their yearly income. Still, that seems like a lot, but it is within reach, and may wind up being surprisingly possible with the right planning, the right investments, and some expert financial advice.

Even so, there are experts who recommend waiting for the bubble to burst before putting a down payment on a home. On the other hand, some experts doubt that the bubble is likely to burst any time soon.

Experts like ex-City trader Rajeev Shah recommend alternative forms of investment, such as sports arbitrage, wherein you bet through multiple bookmakers on all outcomes in a given event, in such a way as to guarantee a positive outcome. It sounds kind of out there, but if you look at the numbers, it actually holds up. It is made possible through the internet and programs like ArbAlarm, and the UK government has made steps to encourage this investment by removing taxes on the industry. Further recommended reading on the subject, if it interests you, can be found in his book “Sports-Arbitrage- How to Place Riskless Bets and Create Tax-Free Investments”.]]> Sat, 27 Sep 2008 12:37:51 -0400 60443 Rhodes Peninsular Investments http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=30982
I posted this on the Aussoft forum but thought it would be best to post on it's own also.

Some time ago I received information from " RHODES PENISULAR INVESTMENTS" another Gold Coast
based company.

They sent me a brochure and seemed to be above board.
I ran a google check and found a few listings and their brochure on line.

They to were asking a figure of around $7000 for a five year period offering a "managed fund".
I said no as I did not have a spare $7000.

I then received an offer of a 1 year "trial" for $2000 which I thought sounded good so paid them with a credit card.

They assured my I would receive my outlay $2000 plus my starting bank $1000 total $3000 back within around 10 weeks.

Looking at my account it is going backwards and I must say I now feel like I have been "conned" and feeling rather stupid that I have been sucked in by these guys.

I have had some trouble getting a hold of someone in their so called Customer Service or getting someone to reply to the many emails I have sent explaining my concerns.

After much persistance I received a call from a fellow called Peter apologising for the delay in getting back to me. He informed me a customer service rep would call me as one was being appointed.

I did then finally get a call from Andre advising he had just started and would be looking after customer service. They keep telling me they have around 8000 accounts.

It is hard to believe that with 8000 accounts they have 1 customer service rep.

When I mention to Andre that it is frustrating that my calls are not returned and that my emails are not answered he tells me he does not have a computer as yet but should have one soon.
This pretty well convinces me that it is another SCAM with very clever sales people and techniques.
I just can't believe I have fallen for it hook, line & sinker.

So far I have been with them since 11 July and have seen nothing come in from their trades to cover the losing trades they have made from my account.

As I mentioned to both Peter & Andre, their brochure clearly states that no matter the outcome you don't lose. The Rhodes Peninsular staff have also given me this assurance verbally on each occasion I have spoken with them.

I was told to check my account at the end of the month which I have done and still see no return coming in from the other wagers.

When I question them I keep getting told that because they deal with overseas bookmakers it sometimes can take 2 to 4 weeks before I see a deposit from Rhodes Peninsular.

Again I queried Andre advising that nothing has been deposited and am now told that of the 8000 accounts they have on the books, only 3 accounts have not had deposits made due to some error that they are trying to correct. He assures me this will be fixed up in the next few days.

I have a bad feeling that I have been had again!

Just wondering if anyone else here has any dealings with these guys. If so I would love to hear your experiences with them.

At the moment its wait and see, but I am seriously considering having my bank do a charge back on my credit card as I am sick and tired of all the excuses.

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]]> Sat, 10 Nov 2007 12:52:38 -0500 35866 The Cheek Of It! http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=54892 other books are offering 2.2, so not WAY off the beaten track.

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Dear Client,



We are writing to you to inform you that your bet 9786788-1 has been
voided. As I am sure you were aware, the price of your selection was
incorrect and should not have been displayed. This step is covered by
our rules and regulations in regards to palpable and technical errors.


I would kindly ask you to refrain from placing bets in this manner in
the future, as it may lead to your account being restricted or closed.



Best Regards,



Frank Schuengel


----------------------

My reply is waiting to go back, but I have refrained for now, as I
dont want to get the account closed and I think it will be if I do!!! lol


reply is,


Dear Betinternet,

You stated.....

> I would kindly ask you to refrain from placing bets in this manner in
> the future, as it may lead to your account being restricted or closed.

I would kindly ask how on earth I am supposed to refrain from placing
bets in ' this manner' when you are advertising a wager, with
what seems to be a fair price? You were offering Atlanta at -1.5
runs for 2.55 ...... not very far out of line from other books.
I merely looked at the best price availble and it was yours. It
is not as though the price was absurd?! 2.55 was not far from several other
books offering 2.2 and upwards.....

I find it distasteful and quite frankly unbeleivable that you ask me from
refraining from placing wagers, when you are offering them. I know
what a palpable error is, and this is quite clearly NOT one.

No other book has ever threatened me in this manner and I kindly
ask you to refrain from doing so in the future. You are an online
bookmaker, please think about acting like one and get you lines
right. If you do not want my business, then tell me outright.

My god, you would not get a book such as PINNACLE acting in
such a disgusting manner. Pinnacle do get their lines wrong,
once in a blue moon and when they do, they at least have the
decency to tell you politely and apologies.

I have forwarded this email to SBR for their review section.



-------------

Obviously I just drafted a reply purely to vent my anger. What do you
all think of their email? ph34r.gif

]]> Fri, 04 Jul 2008 10:52:44 -0400 54892 The Power Of An Arbitrage Sports Betting System http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=59932
"Arbitrage sports betting" is a system of betting on the outcome of events to net a profit regardless of the results. It involves exploiting the differences in the odds that bookmakers offer on different participants. Arbitrage bettors, sometimes known as 'arbitageurs', place their bets on every selection of a sporting event in a manner that ensures them a profit no matter who the winner is. It is a way of gambling for assured returns and is termed as no risk gambling.

The toughest part is finding at least two different bookies whose prices differ, and the difference is high enough to create an arbitrage opportunity that can provide a profit. To state it simply, you bet on one participant with one bookie and bet on the other with another bookie. The odds offered by each of the bookies should be substantially different and will be the basis to determine the amounts that need to be wagered on each participant to create a money-making arbitrage bet.

For example, in tennis, let's suppose Andre Agassi is playing against Patrick Rafter. Bookmaker A offers 1.91 for Agassi and 2.39 for Rafter. Bookmaker B offers odds 2.2 for Agassi and 1.72 for Rafter. This presents an opportunity to use an arbitrage bet to provide guaranteed profits no matter who wins. Suppose you are prepared to invest $500, what can be a good system? Let's create a theoretical bet:

On Agassi - $267.64 with bookie A

On Rafter - $232.36 with bookie B

Total Investment is $500

Let's suppose now Agassi wins. You bet on $267.64 on Agassi with bookie A

Agassi with odds of 1.91 with bookie A works out as 267.64 x 1.91= 511.19

Remember that your total investment between both bets was $500. Take that away and your net profit works out to be $11.19.

Now let's suppose Rafter wins. You bet $232.36 on Rafter with bookie B.

Rafter with odds of 2.20 with bookie B works out as 232.36 x 2.20= 511.19

Once again, your total investment between both bets was $500. Take that away and your net profit works out to be $11.19 once again. You can't lose! The profit is assured.

Arbitrage sports betting is often portrayed as risk free, however, it is not entirely free of risks. For one, the bookmakers have their odds balanced and if you back both sides with the same bookmaker you are sure to lose. Arbitrage will only work when you place your bets with two different bookmakers who, for their own reasons, offer different odds for the same event. They may also shorten their odds after a certain amount has been received against the bets and this will kill your chance of making a profit. Bookmakers also restrict the amount they accept from one person against a selection and even if you would like to put in a bigger amount against your bet, you may not be able to do so.]]> Fri, 19 Sep 2008 06:31:03 -0400 59932 Jenningsbet http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=59805
Europe to Win 2.1 Jenningsbet
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Then,

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so a small arb, and possible refund]]> Wed, 17 Sep 2008 13:18:30 -0400 59805 Wauwbet http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=59736
Sorry if you've got funds in there]]> Tue, 16 Sep 2008 13:50:53 -0400 59736 Bet 1128 Withholding Payments? http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=58970
Only been arbing for about a month or so so not sure how unusual this is or whether I should be unduly concerned.

I have an outstanding winning asian bet with Bet 1128 which they acknowledge but cite ''technical difficulties'' in crediting my account. The match took place yesterday and I'm still waiting payment. Bet 1128 support told me this morning that they would fix it by lunchtime and now they tell me they don't have an ETA on a fix at all.

Does this type of thing happen regularly? Are these guys trying to put one over on me? We're talking less than 50 quid here so I wouldn't think it's the kind of money that's going to ruin their day but even so, i'm kinda concerned by this.....any thoughts?

Cheers.]]> Sun, 07 Sep 2008 13:59:51 -0400 58970 Is Fonbet In Good Shape? http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=58709 Hi.

I've noticed Fonbet is very quiet lately and they seem to have very little to bet on right now....Anyone know if they're doing OK or if it might be wise to pull out?

Cheers]]> Tue, 02 Sep 2008 18:04:58 -0400 58709 Sportspunter http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=27909 On the last two days SP was logging off every time it would refresh the page; that's on Internet Explorer. On my Opera browser it works superfine for some reason but I prefer to use IE. If you are experiencing the same problem SP advises to try www.sportspunter.com instead of arbs.sportspunter.com until the problem is resolved; It works fine for me biggrin.gif. SP hopes to resolve the problem soon smile.gif. ]]> Fri, 08 Jun 2007 08:25:22 -0400 27909 Mixed Handicap Arbs http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=57153 Hiya, Newbie again !!!

Been using Arbexpert for a week or so and noticing some mixed arbs that I can't see working, i.e:

Back team A to outright win a soccer match at 2.120 and team B with an Asian of 0, 0.5 at 2.020.

Surely if this match is a draw then bet A loses and bet B also loses half the stake.....Or am I missing something?

Cheers

Dave.]]> Mon, 04 Aug 2008 16:39:31 -0400 57153 Moneyfookers http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=56708 Moneybookers suspended two accounts, opened one after passport / utility bill and
dna was provided. The other account remained closed and several badly written
emails (on moneybookers side you understand!) later, the account was
re-opened. I continued the discussion and asked how I was meant to know,
how funds were originally flagged when uploaded by the sender of funds (I being
the recipient of said funds), flagged either for better or non betting.

They replied, and this is totally genuine....

> Dear Mrs. XXXX (yes I have my dress and beard on today!),
>
> Thank you for contacting us.
>
> We would like to inform you that every Moneybookers customer is supposed to
> upload funds from their personal bank account or credit card.
>
> Please, note that money transmitting is strictly forbidden, as well as the using
> of funds deposited with retail purposes for gaming.
>
> Please, note that any future violations of our terms and conditions will result
> in account termination.
>
> We hope you will find that information useful.
>
> Best regards,
> Raly,.
> Moneybookers team



Now, I looked at that in disbelief and replied....


''

You say that ''money transmitting is strictly forbidden''...I do not understand?! I thought moneybookers
was specifically a company that is FOR transmitting funds? You have built into your system, an easy
way of transmitting money from one member to another and here you say it is forbidden? Again, you
are contradicting yourselves. I need to understand why it is forbidden to transmit money from
one member to another, when infact you encourage it! You are not making any sense to me at all.

So, lets be clear here, are you saying that it is forbidden for a user to send money to another
user?? Because if you are saying this, then I am completely utterly confused.

I quote the Times Newspaper ''With 4.6 million accounts holders, Moneybookers.com allows you to send money to any email address. '' - so, how can you say sending money to another user is forbidden?

I honestly cant wait for your reply, it is an immense source of entertainment in this house.

Kim '']]> Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:05:47 -0400 56708 Im Teaching Arbitragebetting For Free http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=38290
I also have been casinobonuswhoring for awhile so maybe we can talk about that too if you have any interested.

Requirements?
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Please send me a PM if interested.]]> Tue, 18 Dec 2007 10:16:23 -0500 38290 Which Alert Service To Use? http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=56317
I'm completely new here and new to arbing. At the moment i'm just trawling through the net trying to learn what I can from places such as here and the SAG site.

I took out the 3 day free trial with Arbexpert to get a feel for what kind of things come along and with which bookies, and to try and make a few 'paper trades'...Just to see if I could get to the confirmation screens etc while the arb was still live.

My question is...Why the huge difference in alert service fees, such as Arbexpert being £50pm and Arbitragepro being £150? The alerts on Arbexpert seemed plentiful enough to me, what added value is there in the cost of Arbitragepro? I'm obviously green and naive but was wondering, where are the fundamental differences that make people shell out an extra £100 pm?

Cheers]]> Sat, 26 Jul 2008 05:59:33 -0400 56317 8% Per Day Max! Better Than Arbitrage http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=56426
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]]> Sat, 19 Jul 2008 14:22:07 -0400 55823 Stanjames http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=22803 Right, here we go again sad.gif. One of my favourite bookies, StanJames, limited me after 8 or 9 months of arbing. I called them up to ask for the reason and a geezer, very polite and all, told me that the Management noticed that I'm arbing, hence the reason for limiting me. I asked what's wrong with arbing and he said, absolutely nothing it is just that an arber will always make profit where a bookmaker will loose every time an arber makes a profit. I continued my argument, saying that on the other hand a Bookmaker will make profit every time an arber makes a profit and if the real reason is because I have been winning more than I've been loosing with them. He replied that it is nothing to do with winning or loosing with them it is just ALL bookies' policy to limit arbers. I replied that Pinnacle does not limit arbers they even welcome arbers but there is no way on earth an arber could win, on the long run with Pinnacle no matter what.

Anyway, the conversation wasn't getting anywhere as he couldn't establish a proper reason for limiting arbers; I thank him for his honesty and....well it seems like I've lost another bookie, which was making good profits for me sad.gif . ]]> Fri, 13 Apr 2007 15:58:11 -0400 22803 Canbet £100 Free Match Bonus http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=54893 The terms are reasonable.... www.canbet.com/OLP50 to see details.

]]> Fri, 04 Jul 2008 11:17:53 -0400 54893 Best Day Of The Year So Far! http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=55647 has been the best day of the year so far, for arbing.

The lines have been great, as the UEFA qualifications make for
some interesting games and books who are unsure at what to
set the prices at.

Its been quiet for a while, but today was nice.

I looked at my figues for last year and now until the last week of
September was my most profitable weeks.

Hope it is repeated this year.]]> Thu, 17 Jul 2008 10:25:20 -0400 55647 Odds Checker http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=55310
What i mean a list of say 50 + bookmakers with all the latest odds on them.

The sites i have found only have over 20.]]> Fri, 11 Jul 2008 12:53:57 -0400 55310 <![CDATA[Best & Quickiest Arb Alert Software]]> http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=47799

Need a hand with picking a Arb Alert program any hints please to which one is the most realiable & quick and cheap?

Any good trails around aswell.


Thankyou.

dance9bh.gif]]> Thu, 27 Mar 2008 11:11:28 -0400 47799 Arbitragepro http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=1907 A breif description of ArbitragePro can be found here.

This arbitrage service provider claims to provide a service 'designed for the professional arber in mind.' Boy do they deliver on that promise. This service is easily the most professional service that I have seen so far. The website interface is smooth, professional, and so well built that it makes you wonder why the rest of the websites on the internet aren't this good. Clearly the interface was written by a very skilled programmer.

Of course we aren't looking for services that are just skillfully crafted, I know that, so lets get to all of the wonderful content/options this skillful website crafter has put into this service.

First of all, there are a lot of arbs. Here is a screenshot I took with most of the filters turned off.
http://www.sportsarbitrageguide.com/picts/...geprotrial1.jpg
It shows arbs available for all bookmakers, ranging between 0% and 25% for all sports. They clearly seperate each event, and when they report how many arbs they have found each month, each event counts as one arb, not one arb for each bookmaker combination as reported by many other services.
The huge list on the right is summarised on the left with all of the events listed with the highest trade possible being shown. When new ones are found, a very simple audible alert sounds and it pops up on the left hand side list so you can easily find it. If you are interested in placing the arb, then click on the arb and it takes you to this screen: http://www.sportsarbitrageguide.com/picts/...geprotrial2.jpg
which as you can see shows you all of the details about the arb, including the date of the event and all bookmakers who offer odds on the arb, providing you with recourse if you miss one half of the arb or something goes wrong. There is a little button with the picture of a calculator on it, and when you press it, it pops up with pre-rounded figures telling you what you should be on each side. You find out almost instantly how much you should place either side. Brilliant!

To assist in your arb selections though, there are a host of possible filters. Every filter you have ever dreamed of, is there. http://www.sportsarbitrageguide.com/picts/...geprotrial3.jpg
You have your display, alert and maximum displayed arb filters. You can filter on date of event, do you dont get stuck with an arb which isn't acted on for a month or anything silly like that. And you can filter odds which are more than 25% over market average so as to reduce the chance of palpable/obvious errors.

http://www.sportsarbitrageguide.com/picts/...geprotrial4.jpg
Then there is the 'rules' filter. All of their arbs are already filtered to ONLY show matched rules. You have to choose which mismatched rules you will allow through. So in this screenshot, I have chosen to allow tennis matches which are one rule apart be matched together. Just as an example (although I made an error with T1 and T2, I think you want to match T2 and T3, T3 and T4, and T4 and T1). Anyway, their rules filter is remarkable. I am sure there was a lot of work put into setting that sort of database up so that such a system could work.

Of course there is also the bookmaker filter, and the sport filter, so you can be given arbs only from your chosen bookmakers and sports.

http://www.sportsarbitrageguide.com/picts/...geprotrial5.jpg
This image shows another neat feature of this arb service. Instead of only being able to see all arbs, you can actually look at all of the upcoming events and see the best odds on those events. Choose your sport, and see the best odds on any game at any time. This could be really useful if you fancy yourself as a real sports fanatic. If you know a lot about a tournament or like to watch odds on a particular psort or something, you could use this to predict where arbs come from. I seriously recommend avoiding this for all novices, but I know some people do 'speculate' on arbs.

They are all of the screenshots I took of Arbitrage Pro. Unfortunately I only have a standard 2 day trial, and I have been ridiculusly busy over the past two days, so I didn't get much of a chance to really sit and watch the arbs that it produces (so no real feedback on error rates, duration of arbs etc). Maybe the kind people at arbitrage pro will provide me with another trial in the future wink.gif Or maybe I will have to subscribe. So many services, so little money!

Good Arbing!
Shane





They also include a help section, within which they have a text explanation of the Hockey rules of every bookmaker they use. It seems that hockey rules tend to be individual from bookmaker to bookmaker, so while ArbitragePro have attempted to catgeorise and filter mismatched rules, it is important for you to understand which rules are being used by your bookmakers exactly so you can be sure.
Once again, they seem to have gone to a lot of trouble to colelct this information. Very impressive.

Shane

PS: They increased my trial out to 5 days because I said nice things about them biggrin.gif]]> Sat, 22 Apr 2006 23:51:20 -0400 1907 Vhf http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=51343 Does anyone know anything about this software?? Please click here for site smile.gif ]]> Sun, 11 May 2008 13:40:51 -0400 51343 How To Earn $4000/month - Surebets With Handicaps http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=54130 If you want to increase your profits doing arbitrage (SUREBETS), read the info below and you will get the solution.

I´ve been a professional sport trader for 5 years, when I started doing sports arbitrage all the thing was easier than nowadays, I mean I used to take arbs style 1X2 o 12 or just Over/Under, the simplest and most common way and used to get and average of 2.3% per arb along the whole year.
As I said nowadays it became more difficult, mainly because Bookies update odds faster and also because there are more people doing this business using softwares and other services, so the market has became more complex, resulting in the fact that today my average arb % using the common arbs style would be just around 1%, which is not bad but it is far from the good % I got years ago, meaning that I would have to work harder to get the same profit.

So for all these things I has developed different mathematical formulas simply running in a excel spreadsheet with the goal to get a higher arb % using a combination of betting types like 1X2, asian handicap, 1X2handicap, back/lay arbs, etc...
So I developed and used this method of combination of betting types since 2007 and my average arb % strongly increased from 1% up to 2.5%!!!, newbies would say that this does not look much but experienced trader certainly knows that it is a lot...

Just to understand the big difference in profits lets put it in Pounds:
I placed arbitrage bets for around GBP 3.000.000 in the whole year 2007 with an average arb of 2.5% (using these formulas) that gave me a year profit of GBP 75.000 (3Millions x 2.5 / 100). While using the traditional style of arb in the previous year and getting just the 1% average, I got a year profit of just GBP 30.000 (in 2006), so I increased my income from 30K to 75k that´s 250% better just using the method of combination of betting styles.

The method uses very sophisticated formulas to combine handicap and asian handicap odds with the traditional 1X2 odds, so doing this you are getting arbs in events that the rest of the people in the business are not seeing, this gives you an strategical advantage over the rest and most important allows you to get arbs with higher %.
This is an example of the match Atletico Madrid v Real Valladolid played on 10/01/2008 for Copa del Rey (Spain):
Traditional odds were
Atletico Madrid 1.64
Draw 4.20
Real Valladolid 7.20
This gives you a regular arb of 1.33%, so investing GBP 1000 I get GBP 13.3

BUT look at what I get using the combination of asian handicap with traditional odds:
Looking at the asian handicap offers for this same event I found this odds
Atletico Madrid (-0.75) 1.98
Real Valladolid (+1) 1.90

Now the combination of these odds allows you to get a much more higher arb %
Atletico Madrid (-0.75) @ 1.98
Real Valladolid (+1) @ 1.90
Draw @ 4.20
Real Valladolid @ 7.20

The formulas already developed and ready to use in a simply spreadsheet will tell you how much to bet on every of this odds to get the same profit no matter the outcome.
This gives you a great arb of 5.02%, so investing GBP 1000 I get GBP 50.2
Finally you can see the power of using this combination instead of using the traditional system.

The spreadsheet I developed includes more than 20 options using diferent combinations like handicap (-1.25), (+1.25), (0), (-0.5), (+0.5), (-0.75), (+0.75), calculation a single odd starting from 3-4 or more odds (useful to combine, excat score odds), also a simple box to use arbs style back/lay including the commision of your Betting Exchange and more.

So if you are interested let me know...
betelgues@yahoo.com]]> Sun, 22 Jun 2008 22:12:57 -0400 54130 Changes In Books Who Give Value http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=43270 If it were not for two other income streams, one being casino scalping (harder than it used to be) and
being involved with a great horse laying syndicate, then I would have to get a job.

I spend a LOT of time arbing. I have noticed things becomming tighter than it used to
be even a year ago. Some of my experiences have surprised me, none more so
than opening a Blue Square account with £200 and finding that I have been unable
to place a bet of any decent amount, even though I have never traded with this
account! So, how are other peoples experinces with Blue Square? How much will
they allow you to wager?

Another book I am having trouble with is Expekt. I used to be able to trade £200 no
problem, but no longer. It dosnt matter if its a new account or a vintage one,
I get the £1 (199) in brackets, meanning we will give you a £1 bet but we shall think
about the rest. So, how are other people getting on with this book?

I have also noticed that the forum is less busy than it used to be.

My conclusions are that it is not easy at the moment. Perhaps the elections in
November in the US may result in an overturning of their current port act (not sure
what its really called) and at the time people were unsure what effects the
lack of US punters would have, but time has passed and it would appear to
me that the lack of money sloshing around is making life very hard for those
wanting to take advantage of arbing.

I keep saying I shall be more active here....I have not. I think it
is time that I was and try to put something back.

Questions you may have will be answered and I am sorry for those who asked before
only to be answered 2 months later. I will check back here every day and make
it habit.

Other questions you may have are 1) How to scalp casinos and how sucsessful is it? Answers are
on casinobonuspages.com and its still good. It usually out performs my arbing.
Another question you may have is which laying service do I use? I am not
prepared to answer that just yet. I would have to ask first, as it is my number 1 income,
losses included and often they get 100 percent strike rate in a month.

Anyways, that was not the topic, what I really want to know is how is it all looking for
everyone else?

Hope to hear those keyboards clanking soon.

Wookie]]> Tue, 12 Feb 2008 09:54:10 -0500 43270 Newbie http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=53958
i seem to be wading through the arb process ok with a check list to brouse to avoid mistakes, but i am yet to be able to place a bet where the oportunity arises, difficult to navigate in bookies sites and locate the game some times and then uncertain of how to bet appropriately.

thanks adam

]]> Thu, 19 Jun 2008 23:26:36 -0400 53958 Testimonial For Sag! http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=19949
My friend told me about SportsAbitrageGuide.com and i am really impressed by the site.
It is without doubt the best Arbitrage Guide on the internet.

Thank you for always giving and providing us with a free site to learn about arbitrage trading.

Aegist is no doubt one of the few people who really knows about his stuff.

Keep up the good work thumbup.gif

Maybe someone should pin this topic to show the appreciation for some an important arbitrage site on the internet!

Jim wave.gif]]> Tue, 20 Mar 2007 00:17:08 -0400 19949 Free Sure Bets (arb) Service http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=38437 http://www.odds1x2.com/sureBets.aspx]]> Thu, 20 Dec 2007 08:16:19 -0500 38437 Soccer Games Offline http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=52362 Did anybody else notice that lots, lots, lots of soccer Games - see below - have been Offline at Pinnacle lately??

When I asked them they gave me the folllowing reply:

Dear Client,

Thank you for your email.

In order to feel comfortable pricing these games ourselves, we require at least two sites to be offering market.

Kind regards,

Customer Service Department
Pinnacle Sports

Does anybody knows what on earth they are on about?? AFAIK there are more than two sites offering those markets:

Mon 5/26 6013 Enkopings SK FK Offline Offline
08:59 AM 6014 Vasby Offline Offline
Mon 5/26 6016 Landskrona Offline Offline
08:59 AM 6017 Örgryte Offline Offline
Sun 5/25 2001 Cruzeiro Offline Offline Offline
11:59 AM 2002 Santos Offline Offline Offline
2003 - Draw Offline
Sun 5/25 2004 Goias Offline Offline Offline
11:59 AM 2005 Ipatinga FC Offline Offline Offline
2006 - Draw Offline
Sun 5/25 2007 São Paulo Offline Offline Offline
11:59 AM 2008 Coritiba Offline Offline Offline
2009 - Draw Offline
Sun 5/25 2013 Atlético-PR Offline Offline Offline
02:09 PM 2014 Atletico Mineiro Offline Offline Offline
2015 - Draw Offline ]]> Sun, 25 May 2008 10:15:10 -0400 52362 Gamblers Gold http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=52027 If you loose some money in one you have to earn from another one Tue, 20 May 2008 07:32:48 -0400 52027 Ex Poker Player, Lot Of Money http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=51754
First, i have read alot about the limitation of the bet, like some people get a maximum of 20$ or 100$ bet. O.k, but what is the maximum bet u can do before they limit you? Otherwise, i want to know what kind of bookmaker are SAFE. I dont want to deposit 5000$ to 10 000$ to a unsafe bookmaker, and what kind of arbs alert are the best.

If i can talk whit someone about this i would be realy realy happy. If someone want to help me or to talk whit me about arbing, give me ur MSN its will be realy appreciate. Thanks you,


BlueStaze]]> Fri, 16 May 2008 12:59:15 -0400 51754 Gamblers Paradise http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=30797
Post your experiences with Gamblers Paradise here.
Sports Arbitrage Guide Entry]]> Wed, 01 Aug 2007 09:19:15 -0400 30797 What Was Your Best Deal? My 3068 U$ In 2 Days http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=47205
Long time a study Free Odds comparisons like Betbrain, Tipex, Surewins ... (I think, that biggest sure bets profit end easy to use are on http://surewins.net ) and 5 days ago was very good profit ( 30.69 %) in famous bookmakers (Bet365, Eurobet, Bwin). So I decided to invest 10000 U$ and my betting was like this:

Home(1): 5940 USD (odds 2.2 by bet365)
Draw(0): 2970 USD (odds 4.4 by eurobet)
Away(2): 1089 USD (odds 12 by bwin)

Match ended with home winners and I won 13068 U$ (5940 x 2.2).
Through moneybookers (payment system that use most of the bookmakers in the world) took 1 day to get money back so I was more than 3000 U$ (13068 - 10000 - moneybookers fees) in profit during 2 days and absolute norisk. It was my best deal in my life. I will repead it again smile.gif

And What was Your Best Deal?

Please write here to help others to find best way to make money online.]]> Wed, 19 Mar 2008 18:40:16 -0400 47205 New To Arbitrage And Betting http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=51388
ive read it in full and continue to revise sections as i learn more. some areas within arbitrge are quite complex aswell as navigating around the bookie sites.

could u please expand on the checking of odds, from what i understand its a case of betting like with like, therefore if one bookie has team A on +0.5 and team B on -0.5 then other bookies u wish to bet with must have the same handicaps.
and then in relation to that u dont have to understand the complexity of the handicaps (which i looked at in breif) but just need to maintain ur rule of like with like. I think!

thanks ad]]> Mon, 12 May 2008 01:11:20 -0400 51388 3-way V 2-way (1st Half) http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=51120 Consider the "arb":

New Orleans vs San Antonio on Fri May 09 02:35 (Basketball : US Basketball : NBA : NBA) (1st Half: Home - Away Arbs) Odds

Age Home Odds Away Odds Percent
1 min 3.080 Pinnacle (C'Bean) 1.556 Blue Square (UK) 96.75

The difference is: At Pinnacle is a 2-way Market and at Blue Square a 3-way. Now, as it is half time there shouldn't be any overtime so the 2-way v 3-way shouldn't matter. Am I right or wrong?? I don't know much about Basketball and I couldn't find anything helpful on the rules so any comments on the matter are more than welcome.

Thanks in advance smile.gif.]]> Thu, 08 May 2008 13:53:18 -0400 51120 Arbets http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=51057
See more details about arbets here: http://www.sportsarbitrageguide.com/compon...erts.php#arbets
]]> Thu, 08 May 2008 02:15:23 -0400 51057 Betwinners http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=39594 BetWinners has been added to the Alert Services Page.

They offer an email alert service for about £9. The website is pretty looking, but full of bad grammar, bad spelling and inconsistencies. For example the very home page says you are guaranteed 40 uniqe arbs a month, then says guaranteed a bare minimum of 540, then proceeds to say that if you get less than 50 arbs a month, you will be refunded your monthly fee.

Proof reading is not that difficult to do when trying to run a serious online business.]]> Fri, 04 Jan 2008 20:31:24 -0500 39594 Shurebet.plays4you http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=50531 Shurebet.Plays4You here.]]> Thu, 01 May 2008 04:19:18 -0400 50531 Bettor-paradise http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=50523 Bettor-Paradise is a web based alert service, which offers free subscriptions based on referring friends, or signing up at bookmakers under Bettor-Paradise affiliate links.]]> Thu, 01 May 2008 02:18:08 -0400 50523 Easyodds.eu http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=50298
See entry in SAG here:
http://www.sportsarbitrageguide.com/compon...ts.php#easyodds
]]> Mon, 28 Apr 2008 02:20:07 -0400 50298 -1.0 V 1.0 http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=49141 Consider the following "Arb":

Los Angeles vs Toronto on Sun Apr 13 20:00 (Soccer : Major League Soccer : MLS : Round 3) (Home Asian - Away Asian Arb : Full Game)

(-1.00) 2.180 Pinnacle (C'Bean) (1.00) 1.860 Bet Internet (UK) 99.64

Score:

0 - 0 >> Winning from Bet Internet

1 - 0 >> Refund from Pinnacle + Refund from Bet Internet

0 - 1 >> Winning from Bet Internet

1 - 1 >> Winning from Bet Internet

2 - 0 >> Winning from Pinnacle

2 - 1 >> Refund from Bet Internet + Refund from Pinnacle

The rest of the results such as 0 - 2, 1 - 2, 2 - 2 etc. are too obvious so I omitted those. Apart from the refund from both sides - and that's my main concern - the rest of the scores are fairly obvious as well.

Does anybody disagree??? I would love to hear smile.gif

]]> Sun, 13 Apr 2008 17:37:04 -0400 49141 10 Bet http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=49116
Nothing but errors this weekend, and wrong odds posted.
Up to six bets cancelled this weekend, and no, none of them on the NBA!!!

I know not the best, but they do produce some good arbs

Smithie]]> Sun, 13 Apr 2008 07:12:14 -0400 49116 <![CDATA[""globalarbtraders Scam & Scum"]]> http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=48877 Be very aware of globalarbtraders again located on the goldcoast, headed up by a Mr Peter Ryan the so called silvertail in the industry he is a confidence trickster who exploits people and spreads misery, he likes money, (other Peoples),Peter Ryan comes across as an arbitrage guru and prides himself and his personal appearance on delivering wealth, unfounded wealth, he comes from a multipul business failure background with previous involvement with proarbtraders and the good old horse racing scams of the past, yes this guy is a seasoned performer, he is corrupt and as Slippery as a Snake, Peter Ryan is a serial liar and a repeat offender and is likly to jump from this business and morph himself into another,as a previous employee i feel it is my duty to do some good and try and undo this globalarbtraders scam, with no financial licence and no hope of recovery i urge all those whom have been conned out of there hard earned cash to take action. i would expect that this office will not be in operation to much longer as the federal police are investigating and im sure that charges of fraud will soon be brought about.
This is for the webcrawler
Globalarbtraders SCAM & SCUM Globalarbtraders SCAM & SCUM Globalarbtraders SCAM & SCUM thumbup.gif Globalarbtraders SCAM & SCUM Globalarbtraders SCAM & SCUM Globalarbtraders SCAM & SCUM Globalarbtraders SCAM & SCUM Globalarbtraders SCAM & SCUM Globalarbtraders SCAM & SCUM]]> Thu, 10 Apr 2008 05:45:08 -0400 48877 Warning - Possible Scam Sites http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=47804 Found some sites in Australia that caused me concern. Especially when one is asking for a $9,900 setup costs.

http://www.ozfuture.com.au/

http://www.wtsystems.com.au/guarantee.html

www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/314/RipOff0314016.htm (might need to copy & paste in browser)

www.ripoffreport.com/view.asp?id=306906 ( might need to copy & paste in browser)

]]> Thu, 27 Mar 2008 11:47:28 -0400 47804 Sports Arbitrage Trading Really Work? http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=47964 does Sports Arbitrage Trading Really work? I feel like if there were idea situations people would see them right away and try to do the same thing. Is this really profitable? Sat, 29 Mar 2008 12:26:47 -0400 47964 <![CDATA[Can't Understand One Of Arbspy.com's Arbs]]> http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=47954
Using £1000

Back Anderlecht @ 1.75 @ €Play for £604
Lay Anderlecht @ 1.60 @ BF for £396

And they suggest this returns £57 if Anderlecht win and £56 if they lose or draw. I understand the win result but not the draw or loss! Surely if Anderlecht lose or draw you have lost £604 at €Play and only kept the lay money at BF? That would be a hefty overall loss!! I wonder if the site is treating lay returns as if it was a regular bookie bet.

Or perhaps I'm missing something!]]> Sat, 29 Mar 2008 10:10:32 -0400 47954 Aussoft/globalsoft http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=29513 hi im from australia and trying to do research before i buy arbitrage software called arb-a-trader which is distributed through aussoft technolgies pty ltd in australia or globalsoft in the uk.it cost $7800.00.its said the software does everythink for you in 90 seconds.im very new to arbitrage and would appreciate any imformation.many thanks . Sat, 07 Jul 2007 07:54:58 -0400 29513 Carbona - Csi Arbitrage http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=32682
Alert Service Listing]]> Tue, 04 Sep 2007 23:41:32 -0400 32682 Warning http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=46385
There are 2 games: One tomorrow 11/03/08 and one on 15/03/08. Willhill lists the games on the 15th and the rest of the books tomorrow. Very easy to fall into the trap if you are not experience i.e all books I know apart from Eurobet list the home team first smile.gif :

Berwick vs Cowdenbeath on Sat Mar 15 15:00 (Soccer : Scottish 2nd Div : Scottish 2nd Div : Round 1) (Home - Double Chance Arbs) Odds
x
Age Home Odds Draw Or Away (X2) Odds Percent
>10 min 4.500 William Hill (UK) 1.300 GameBookers (UK) 99.15
>10 min 4.500 William Hill (UK) 1.300 Sunderlands (UK) 99.15

Ross County vs Ayr Utd on Sat Mar 15 15:00 (Soccer : Scottish 2nd Div : Scottish 2nd Div : Round 1) (Home - Away - Draw Arbs) Odds
x
Age Home Odds Away Odds Draw Odds Percent
>10 min 1.667 William Hill (UK) 7.000 Victor Chandler (UK) 4.500 BetWay (UK) 96.51
>10 min 1.667 William Hill (UK) 6.500 Sunderlands (UK) 4.500 BetWay (UK) 97.61
>10 min 1.667 William Hill (UK) 6.500 GameBookers (UK) 4.500 BetWay (UK) 97.61
>10 min 1.667 William Hill (UK) 6.500 BetWay (UK) 4.500 BetWay (UK) 97.61
>10 min 1.667 William Hill (UK) 6.000 Blue Square (UK) 4.500 BetWay (UK) 98.89

Ross County vs Ayr Utd on Sat Mar 15 15:00 (Soccer : Scottish 2nd Div : Scottish 2nd Div : Round 1) (Home - Double Chance Arbs) Odds
x
Age Home Odds Draw Or Away (X2) Odds Percent
>10 min 1.667 William Hill (UK) 2.600 Sunderlands (UK) 98.46 ]]> Mon, 10 Mar 2008 17:24:37 -0400 46385 Arbsafe.com http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=37947 SAG Alert Service Listing

happy.gif
I cannot see the topic of this ArbSafe.com, so I post this, hope somebody can show us experience from joining them. beach.gif

Their website: www.ArbSafe.com

Some infors:

QUOTE
About us:
. ArbSafe is a professional sporting arbitrages provider launched in 2007.
. We are sending about 170 high profit arbs per month to our members.
. You can choose preferred package below:

SMS & Email Package:. What you need is a mobile phone to receive our arbitrages as soon as they appear.
. We send arbitrages with all details for placing a bet to your mobile phone via SMS.
. Moreover, you will receive a copy of SMS in your email.


Email Package:. You will receive instant arbitrage alerts via email.
. You need to keep checking your email regularly or you can miss the chances. So, this package is not recommended by us.


I have not time to keep checking the odds comparing website or software, therefore I think this service may be good for me with sms messages smile.gif]]> Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:10:23 -0500 37947 Arbseek http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=42732 I registered with Arbseek about 3 months ago and have had nothing but trouble with this company since. First they did not send a confirmation email to enable me to use my account Before I realised there was a problem I made the mistake of sending a 1 month subscription fee of 100 euros. Because I could not use my account and could not receive any emails from the company I opened a new account. After that I found out the problem with my original account was that they were sending all emails to the wrong address. I asked them to fix this but they refused or were unable to. I then asked them to transfer my subscription to the new account. Once again they refused. Since then they have refused to answer any of my emails including one about their software not working as they advertised. The software is supposed to log on to a bookmakers site automatically but this does not happen. This company has stolen my subscription fee and given me nothing in return but silence. DO NOT USE THIS SERVICE. Wed, 06 Feb 2008 19:12:02 -0500 42732 Heres A Good Looking Arb http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=46042 im thinking about betting on this, its been valid for a couple of hours now. all advice is greatly welcomed!


Sevilla vs Levante

profit of 489.5 GBP (48.9%)
a) Go to DiamondSportsbook
cool.gif Bet 'Sevilla'
c) Stake at 2.25

Profit of 492.1 GBP (49.2%)
a) Go to Pinnaclesports
cool.gif Bet 'Draw'
c) Stake at 6.09

Profit of 488 GBP (48.8%)
a) Go to Pinnaclesports
cool.gif Bet 'Levante'
c) Stake at 16.00
d) Pay withdrawal fee (GBP)

is this a good one guys? let me know

James]]> Thu, 06 Mar 2008 17:51:17 -0500 46042 Financialbinary.com http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=41791
Don't know where financial betting fits in so have put this topic in with sports betting.

I signed up to financialbinary and was surprised to find that rather than ordinary risk 90 to win 100 you get with this type of thing they actually found some genuine arbs between two different binary bet providers! The first one made me 7% and the second one 6% and that is guaranteed profit.

Before you discount this they offer a 10 day money back guarantee for their subscription service so what have you to lose?

Thanks

Joe

]]> Fri, 25 Jan 2008 14:06:47 -0500 41791 (1x2) Vs (+0.5 And +1) http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=42939 I came across this "arb" today but as I wasn't sure by the time I decided to trade the "arb" was gone.

Here are my calculation and if you agree/disagree please let me know:

Gava vs Ontinyent CF on Sun Feb 10 11:00 (Soccer : Spanish Soccer : Segunda B Group 3 : Round 1) (Home - Away Asian Arbs : Full Game) Odds
x
Age Home Odds Away Asian Hcp Odds Percent
0 min 2.000 Sportingbet (UK) (0.75) 2.060 Pinnacle (C'Bean) 98.54
0 min 2.000 BetUK (UK) (0.75) 2.060 Pinnacle (C'Bean) 98.54

0 - 0 (Winning from Pinnacle)

0 - 1 (Winning from Pinnacle)

1 - 0 ( Winning from Sportingbet/Betuk AND half a refund from Pinnacle)

1 - 1 ( Winning from Pinnacle )

1 - 2 ( Winning from Pinnacle )

2 - 1 ( Winning from Sportingbet/Betuk AND half a refund from Pinnacle)

2 - 2 Pattern repeats...

So what do you think?? May never get an arb like this again - probably is wrong laugh.gif laugh.gif but just for the sake of argument lets assume it is not wrong and something similar could appear again, hence lets try to work it out smile.gif .

Thanks in anticipation of your comments smile.gif.]]> Sat, 09 Feb 2008 16:11:01 -0500 42939 Shock !!! http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=38643
Where do I start ? Most internet 'traders' nightmare . Ok logged onto my PC round about 8:45 this morning and did the usual traders routine of trawling for opportunities etc . Saw an opportunity at 10 Bet and logged on . What a shock !! My balance should have been 'x' dollars but now was showing a balance of $9.52 which was a substantial amount that should have been there ( hindsight it should have been withdrawn long time ago ) Ok , panic , immediately went through account statement and in betting history a wager for 'x' amount had been placed at 08:00:08 for a soccer match in Japan . Anyway immediately contacted customer service and was told to contact accounts by e mail !!! I said I wanted to speak to a senior manager as I considered a serious matter had taken place with my account . No chance Sunday morning !!!! E mailed em and they returned the e mail despite me giving them my mobile number and land line number . They more or less said it was my problem , that the bet had been placed correctly and from my PC . I need to mention now that the match in question was scheduled to kick off at 06:00 am ( GMT time ) and in fact kicked off a couple of minutes late ( 06:02 ) The timing is vital as the time and date of the wager slip was processed by 10 Bet was / is 08:00:48 . Ok quick calculation including added time meant match should finish 07:55 latest . Ok need to verify end time of match but how ? Called on a good friend who is a major contributor here for advice ( wanted to get things right before placing post here ) In the mean time had a brainwave and called customer services at Betfair . Asked rep if he could do me a favour and check with tech guys what time they suspended (finished) this particular match He rang me back about 10 mins later and said ............... 07:50 !!!

Ok long shot of it all contacted their customer service with this info and they have promised full investigation . Bollocks , I said , I want my money refunded , full apology and compensation for the worry , anxiety and forthe dogs missing their walks .I am now awaiting outcome and a visit to the police if no satisfaction forthwith. Sorry for such a long post guys but I know you will know its worth it

I will keep you posted with the outcome

Thanks Zack smile.gif]]> Sun, 23 Dec 2007 11:24:58 -0500 38643 Genuine Arb Available Now http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=41971
Select one touch on BOM and choose Wall Street index and set level as 13375 expiring 22nd February should cost around £20 to win £100.

Then go to BFT and choose same strike and expiry with Wall Street index but select no touch bet. Shold cost you £70 to win £100.

And there you have a 10% arb.

Sorry about bad spelling have to be quick to place these bets. Enter promotional code FREE100FBC when you go to Bets for traders for a free £100 when you deposit.

Enjoy the arb guys.]]> Mon, 28 Jan 2008 10:31:13 -0500 41971 Arbseek http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=21918 ArbSeek here.]]> Sun, 08 Apr 2007 22:58:04 -0400 21918 Betdirect http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=40556 Yes, so their odds are exactly the same. What that means is we can place the same bets on both sides. Stanjames limits arbers and now Betdirect must limit as well so it might only be worth it to place on both sites smile.gif. ]]> Tue, 15 Jan 2008 16:27:10 -0500 40556 Odds1x2 http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=39596 Odds1x2 is an odds comparison service which offers a free surebet alert service. Post your personal experiences with Odds1x2 here.

]]> Fri, 04 Jan 2008 20:38:49 -0500 39596 Betriskfree http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=3101
They scan over 107 bookmakers for arbs in a variety of sports. I will certainly be taking out a trial with these guys and reporting on how they perform here and in my blog. Stay tuned....

Shane]]> Tue, 23 May 2006 03:38:18 -0400 3101 Crazy 9% Arb Option Available.... http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=39254 Illinois St +109 in caesars

I never seen thsi big of a gap in the line...probably because of early opening. The limit is only 150GBP in caesers so i couldnt get much action. Its still available if you guys want it, i dont think its gonna last long so hurry.]]> Tue, 01 Jan 2008 10:37:53 -0500 39254 Palpable Error http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=38947
Can a bm call palpable error after a game has started ? The reason I ask is because there is quite a discrepancy in odds on a particular match which has stayed open for some time now . I always avoid such large odds differences but as this side has stayed open for some time wondered what the forum may think .

Still waiting on 10 Bet but have had confirmation from Betfair and xscores that indeed the match finished before the Purchase Date and time on betting slip ( previous post 'shock' )

Thanks in advance Peter ( alias Pet )]]> Fri, 28 Dec 2007 09:40:11 -0500 38947 Ip Address http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=38569
Hey guys

What do you think of this software from zonealarm Click here to hide our IP address from bookies and ewallets?? This could help when opening multiple accounts.

Your views would be highly appreciated smile.gif. ]]> Sat, 22 Dec 2007 06:04:37 -0500 38569 Betcris http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=38381 For the past 2 days I was not able to download BetCris website. Is anyone else having the same problem?? I'm getting really pissed off here mad.gif. BetCris is telling me there is something wrong with my computer, which it can't be as it downloads all other sites.

Please let me know if you have the same problem or maybe how to solve the problem.

Thanks in advance.
]]> Wed, 19 Dec 2007 15:43:24 -0500 38381 Intertops http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=38111 Intertops is offering bonus for December: Up to $400 for weekend deposits - 4 X 10% - but as the first weekend is gone that would be $300, I suppose. Sounds good to me!!

Click here for details. smile.gif ]]> Sun, 16 Dec 2007 04:29:55 -0500 38111 Lay/back Arbs http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=34679 2 very good Lay/Back arbs, see below. Have been there since early this morning, that's over 12 hours so from my experience there are likely to be there for a while. Did not place any trades myself 'cause those stupid exchange rates eat through your profits but if you already have money with Starbet you are laughing biggrin.gif. Placed one before betwen Starbet and Betfair 4.12% but unfortunately Betfair won so Starbet is empty again sad.gif.

Good luck if trading and I'll try to get some more:

Azerbaijan - Portugal
Football: Europe, UEFA Euro 2008 (Incl. Qualifications)
13/10/07 17:00 1X2 1.83% Portugal

1.22 - Back

Starbet
Portugal
1.19 - Lay

Betfair (GBP 11035)


England - Estonia
Football: Europe, UEFA Euro 2008 (Incl. Qualifications)
13/10/07 15:00 1X2 1.48% England

1.12 - Back

Starbet
England
1.10 - Lay

Betfair (GBP 86808)
]]> Thu, 11 Oct 2007 17:01:15 -0400 34679 Maths Lesson http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=36844
pev60@hotmail.com]]> Tue, 27 Nov 2007 11:14:48 -0500 36844 Information On Sports Arbitrage http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=37064 I am new to to this forum and am interested if anyone has any information about the following companies. I have read all the information until 12th November 2007. I am searching for the latest phone numbers, address and information regarding these companies.
The Companies Excel Trading, Aussoft, Worldwide Marketing and Outlay Solutions.
I am looking for their offices not their virtual office.
Thankyou
I spy 007java script:emoticon(':doh:', 'smid_13')
doh.gif]]> Fri, 30 Nov 2007 18:52:14 -0500 37064 Games http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=36862
For example, Ladbrokes have an offer of 'Deal or no Deal', spend £10, and get £10 free.
All I did was bet £1 and take the first offer from the banker.
In doing this, made £9.80 in ten minutes work.

Anybody else take up on these offers???

Smithie]]> Tue, 27 Nov 2007 18:07:45 -0500 36862 Betlines http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=34072 http://www.sportsarbitrageguide.com/compon...ts.php#betlines

]]> Sun, 30 Sep 2007 04:33:03 -0400 34072 Arbitrage http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=36731 I found this on Betbrain forum: Betbrain Forum

unibet
yuzbashiev - 23/11 21:13

Is any one that have a problem with bookmake unibet. From bookie blocked my account and say to me that i bet sindicate betting and dont pay me.Can you help me?

I checked what sindicate means and this is the definition of the Oxford dict.:

M20. [Sp. = syndicate, trade union.] In Spain and Spanish-speaking countries: a trade union.

In other words it looks like they blocked and won't pay this guy 'cause he's arbing ohmy.gif. Is that right or did I get this wrong? I hope I got it wrong.

What do you think?? sad.gif ]]> Sun, 25 Nov 2007 11:46:10 -0500 36731 Arb Friendly Bookies http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=36451
this is an extension to the pinnacle king thread that Zach started. He very kindly listed his top 3 as:

Pinnacle
Will Hill
Canbet

Anybody have any views or opinions to any others? I believe Pinny is in a class of its own in terms of their view on arbing, but any other views or info on other bookies would be useful. (exchanges not included)

cheers


]]> Tue, 20 Nov 2007 13:06:12 -0500 36451 Sunderlands Bm http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=36729 Sun, 25 Nov 2007 10:55:00 -0500 36729 Nhl Hockey Games http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=36723 Did anyone else fell a victim of the following game??

Buffalo @ Montreal - Money Line (Inc. OT)

This is not the first time that Betbrain makes a mistake like that.

Layed Montreal at Betfair @ 2, backed at Pinnacle @ 2.18 and at Canbet @ 2.15. After some time I noticed the same price at Pinnacle, which was v-e-e-e-e-e-r-y strange; Odds at Pinnacle change with the speed of light!! Went back to Betfair and....Oh Noooooooooooooooo........ohmy.gif. The game was on 25/11/07 @ 00.05 and the one I backed was on 24/11/07 @00:35. The same teams playing each other within 24hrs!! Never thought of something like that. First I thought Betfair made a mistake but on the comparison site it was exactly that. I called Betfair and asked why they have a game playing on the 25th as “fixture 24 November”?? They said because in the states it would still be the 24th when the game is played.

I covered both sides and lost £45.77, which is about 12% of what I could have lost. If I had left it I would had made a profit as the back lost but the Lay won. How could I know??sad.gif.]]> Sun, 25 Nov 2007 05:09:33 -0500 36723 Help http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=36294

]]> Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:34:36 -0500 36294 Alternate Lines http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=36228 Sorry to alarm you guys. Daniel Kirk just told me that those are alternate lines found on comparison sites where arbers can compare to SP arbs and create new arbs. In other words is for finding arbs manually and surprisingly according to D. Kirk there are a lot!! I had no idea about this so it won't effect me in any way smile.gif.

Zach can you give an example what to look for ie you are comparing Pinny handicap alternate lines ( Asian Hcp ? ) in comparison to other bookies lines ?

Thanks in advance ........ Peter
]]> Thu, 15 Nov 2007 00:55:22 -0500 36228 Bet-foxx http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=36210
Think its been some time since you've look at a different alert service, so found another one for you;

http://bet-foxx.de/index-eng.html - bet foxx 2.0.

Its a German site - only 25 euros / month.

Just having a closer look now

Smithie]]> Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:04:19 -0500 36210 Arbers How Common Are Draws In Soccer Matches http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=33423
Tell me how common are draws in soccer matches? Do you find it a common occurence and therefore avoid arbing on soccer matches or is it all part of your arbs and so do you take the loses with the wins? Love to hear your experiences.]]> Tue, 18 Sep 2007 21:28:36 -0400 33423 Neteller http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=35825 Signed up to Neteller 3 weeks ago with no deposit, a week ago I went to deposit funds and was directed
to upgarde or my account would be frozen.. so I sent the docs required, waited and no reply.
I sent another email asking how long, then they say we couldn't read the paper scans i sent , ok i say , so I send new one's. Three days later and I send another email asking whats the delay and still no bloody reply.
I made deposit of a lesser amont into my account to show my intensions, do you think this would help?
Does this sound familiar to anyone............?]]> Fri, 09 Nov 2007 19:11:34 -0500 35825 Cash Prizes For Comments On Surebetbookies http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=34472 I am currently running a competition at Sure Bet Bookies where $50, $25 and $10 USD cash prizes are being offered for whoever posts the most useful and informative comments about bookmakers in the SBB database before the 15th of November.

See the details on the site: http://www.surebetbookies.com/cashforcomments.php
and see the Sports Arbitrage Guide blog entry about it here: http://www.sportsarbitrageguide.com/wordpr...es-competition/

Shane]]> Mon, 08 Oct 2007 22:09:44 -0400 34472 Oz Future http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=36175 This is an Australian company. They want to charg 7700A$ for life time member ships. They are trading for us like a trust funds and charge 5% of the profit. They are promissed 200 to 1000 profit every week and with starting capital 1000 A$ only. Also promissed 40000 compound return for annam. Is this sounds Ok? or not? Wed, 14 Nov 2007 06:32:47 -0500 36175 Beards http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=35948 friends that are happy for me to trade their accounts.

Now, I have come to the point where I need new accounts.

Would love to hear any suggestions from members. My brain is
usually good at solutions, but this problem is becomming somewhat
of a problem.

Your thought are most welcome.]]> Mon, 12 Nov 2007 03:28:50 -0500 35948 Sure Bets http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=35865
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ArbWinner
Betlines BetRiskFree
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OddsAndBets
OddStorm
Sports Punter
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Tip-Ex UCantLose]]> Sat, 10 Nov 2007 12:51:47 -0500 35865 Placing Bets Aud Usd Ect http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=35641 [size=3]I'm signing up to stacks of sportsbooks and being asked to choose a currency, so far most I've chosen is in USD. Some don't let you choose AUD which I where I'm from. Are there any disadvantages to one particular currency, or should I stick to one only to avoid conversions when arbing ?
Also, is anyone in Melbourne new to arbs, who is looking to learn with or teach a newbie if time permits. Some things you just want to talk to someone about, because typing takes me ages lol
Regards
Mr Caulk ]]> Mon, 05 Nov 2007 04:43:14 -0500 35641 We Are In For A Lot Of Trouble http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=35718 Message from Sportpunter:

Pinnacle are no longer including alternate lines in their xml feed (eg alternate asian handicaps, alternate handicaps, alternate goal lines), which will significantly reduce the number of arbs available. You are encouraged to contact Pinnacle and say that you are missing these lines in odds comparison services.

Message from Pinnacle:

Dear Sir,

We regret to tell you that this information is not available in the XML feed.

We do not provide all the lines offered at Pinnacle Sports in the XML feed. Currently there is no option to either request or exclude the display of certain lines.

Regards,

Customer Service Department
Pinnacle Sports

(CaseNumber-720933_6)
-----------------------------------------------------

When I just began to make decent money sad.gif. Sigh; Why why why?? What the hell are we are going to do now without Hcps from Pinnacle?? Why S*** always happens?? sad.gif ]]> Wed, 07 Nov 2007 06:28:38 -0500 35718 Volunteer Myself To Teach Arbs http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=35255
I got nothing to do sitting in front of my computer whole day, seems like this is the thing i can do. I only seek for referral so no more fee is included in here, unless anyone nice enough to pay me (will gladly say thank you tongue.gif )

About me, im arbing for about 18 month, got some trouble at first cos i need to learn it by myself but now everything seems to be ok. Got many arbs friends out there. I also teach arbs in my country here ( special invitation from the rfp's network in here ).

So... if anyone interested just drop me email at babinakallagi@yahoo.com. Will try to do online teaching thru messenger (ym/msn/skype)


Thnx for the attention.
Anton]]> Sat, 27 Oct 2007 02:24:23 -0400 35255 Arbitrage Newbie; Really Appreciate Some Help Before Starting http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=35589
I make a decent income through real estate but I cannot pass up the opportunity to make sports betting both fun, and almost "guaranteed" profitable. Of course arbitrage is "risk-free" is theory, but not practice so if I could get some help from everyone, before I start arb betting that would be great! Thanks

** I have a lot of questions, so please feel free to answer just one question if you can!! I don't expect one person to type away answers to all my questions, thanks**


1. In general how far in advance are the games in an alert from an alert service? (ie I'd only want an alert for a games a day or two in advance, not say a month, do alert services have a limit on this, or can you set a limit as a preference?

2. How often will a bookie (a reliable bookie, a B grade or above on sportsbookreview and others) cancel a bet after its been placed? (if it's NOT an obvious mistake)

3. What's the best (ie fastest) way to check other bookies odds? (to check if an alert's odds are a mistake?)

4. Alert services seem to have Pinnacle a lot with their arbs, and Pinnacle is a bookie I use to place regular bets with and I enjoy them quite a bit so I would definitely use them for arbing. Pinnacle only settles a tennis bet if 2 sets of the match have been completed
a) How often do tennis arbs come up? And
cool.gif How often would a tennis match not have at least 2 sets played? And
c) Should I be leery/ avoid a tennis arb involving Pinnacle?

5. Ladbrokes is another bookie I haven't personally used, but have heard good things about and looks decent and has good enough reviews. Ladbrokes markets close at times. Would an alert only come through if the markets are open? Would the markets need to be open for an alert to even exist?

6. I am a little confused about handicaps. Arbitrage guides I've read mention a bet is safe only if the handicaps at the pair of bookies are opposite (ie ¾ at Pinnacle must be -3/4 or 0 at Ladbrokes) – If the handicaps are opposite will a bet be safe no matter what, even if the score with the handicap ends up as a losing bet? Or is a losing bet even possible if the handicaps are opposite?

7. I think that covers pretty much everything that could trip me up that I'm unsure about, but if not PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE throw in anything else to watch out for! Thanks alot everyone!

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